Wednesday, September 19, 2007

post-class 9/19 Will and Grace

Jones

Connolly argues that Will and Grace are always discussed as an almost perfect heterosexual couple and that this makes "homosexuality on television" more acceptable to right-wing critics and mainstream viewers. I actually thought that Connolly’s argument was pretty flawed—she had a conclusion in mind and then tried to tweak the facts to make them fit. What did you think? What were her most valid points? Any points that you thought she used sloppily?




7 comments:

PK said...

I was not impressed with Connolly's argument. I mean it makes sense but I didn't really buy it. Connolly did get me thinking about Will & Grace from a perspective that I hadn't thought of before. I started thinking, do Will & Grace portray a perfect relationship? And is this relationship even better than a relationship between a heterosexual couple? I think the ways Will and Grace complement each other from him being gay and her being straight adds a unique element to their relationship and makes it work. I'm not sure what this means, but it was interesting to think that maybe a gay guy and a straight girl make for the perfect couple.

Unknown said...

I did not agree with Connolly's argument. She mentions that Will & Grace are the "perfect couple" yet Grace is straight and Will is gay. How can they be the perfect couple? This is one major flaw that I found in her argument.
Even though, I think that it is a brilliant idea that the producers revolve the show with a more heterosexual aspect to Will and Grace's relationship because more viewers can relate to it. Connolly should have used a more straight-forward, stronger point rather than her "perfect couple" idea.

Maria Altamirano

Lauren Dorsaneo said...

I think Will & Grace is a really great show because of the way it portrays gay stereotypes living with straight people.

michael O'keeffe said...

I would have to agree with Pk that maybe a gay guy and a strait girl do make the perfect couple. At first thought i don't think most people would understand it but after a little bit of thought it makes perfect sense. I was doing some research and i found a very good interview that has to do with all the characters of will and grace, it gave me a good new perspective. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DygrqwcepHo
i though it was pretty interesting because the actors actually talk about the relationship that they have on the show.

Brianna Seo said...

I liked when Connolly compared between Ellen and Will&Grace and said that Will & Grace could become a successful show because "The show did not focus around a homosexual man's coming out, but rather homosexuality as a way of life." However,mostly I did not agree with her descriptions about the relationship between Will and Grace. She described Will&Grace as "perfect couple" if Will was not gay. The word "Perfect" is not fit because there is one exception there. Also she described Will and Grace are "Odd couple" and compared them to the Oscar and Felix who were two same sex friends. This example does not fit in to the relationship between Will and Grace because Will is gay, but Grace is a straight woman.
It seemed like she brought wrong examples to make them fit in her argument.

meg143 said...

I also strongly disagree with Connolly's argument. I believe that one of the major points of the show is that a man and a woman can have a perfect relationship and not be romantically involved. I think that Will and Graces relationship does a very good job of portraying a normal homosexual lifestyle that is not offensive or stereotypical. The show does a good job of balancing light and fun humor while incorporating important values of acceptance in our society.

Anonymous said...

Overall this argument was pretty weak, but on the other hand I think she really had a good start to the discussion. Especially the topic of "More Accessible Homosexuality". She compares the Ellen Show and Will and Grace and is able to say "ok, this is why Ellen failed, but now compare Will and Grace to the previous failure...see the difference?" She mentions the main difference as being that Ellen is too "preachy" but Will and Grace is able to show more of a reality of the homosexual subject and how it plays in everyday life.

Other than that I think the "almost perfect couple" ploy failed in her arguments. People should realize that a relationship with a gay guy and a straight girl is not going to be the same as a friendship relationship between a straight guy and a straight girl. I know from experience. Will and Grace is able to portray that straight girl and gay guy relationship in a realistic way I believe and it doesn't need to extend into Romance...

A for effort though